FlyLO
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Post by FlyLO on Oct 11, 2005 14:46:01 GMT 7
Hi guys, I was just having this thought and well "Hypothetically", Im thinking of upping the power in my Car.
For a budget of let's say 100,000 pesos (which I dont have) and hopefully a power out put of atleast 200whp.
Current Engine: b16a2 with I/H/E mods
Car: Civic SiR 99, black
An all-motor setup would cost a lot and well thd power out put would be less than the planned 200 whp. (Though I haven't seen omniman's video, if you guys dont know he made 200 with close to oem parts on his b16. nothing major but i doubt it was still more than 100k) So for me now Headworks or mods and block mods would still cost more but won't get the desired 200 unless I up the displacement by swapping blocks or adding a stroker, which is out of the question since it costs more than 100k)
---> Choice would probably a b20b/z from a crv
or b18c5 from the renowned dc2 ITR. plus some head porting and mods. Btw, ill still be using a stock SiR head on this setup. I can add cams aswell
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A FI induced, a "home made" kit would probably the best bet as it would easily make the 200 and more but the problem here would be reliability.
--->Planned setup would be a mild boost setup, less than 1bar. Probably a t28 or a t3 both nissan surplus items. Then run an IC from a supra/skyline/evo. DSM 450cc injectors. Custom charge pipes and pipings in SS, Uberdata tuned and all the additional parts for boost.
What do you guys think? any thoughts?
(Sorry im bored at home I have law finals tom and I cant get myself to study.)
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Post by FlyLO on Oct 14, 2005 12:51:00 GMT 7
BUMP! any info or comments?
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Post by kev on Oct 14, 2005 17:12:09 GMT 7
i think there are certain consequences with either of the choices. if u do go the all-motor way, it would be less than 200whp for the said budget. it would cost u more for that. pero u can go head works, port and polish, camgear, flywheel, camshaft, and maybe new pistons? i also heard, you can use the existing b16 head, with a b20 block. it is about the same size and produces significant change in power "daw".
if u go the boost way, you would get closer to 200whp, pero yun nga lang, lots of surplus parts there, so you cant really rely on the longevity of the parts na. ask jeff about putting on a turbo. and i also heard from my brother, when u have a turbocharger equipped, ur maintenance would be more frequent and costly..
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Post by FlyLO on Oct 15, 2005 0:53:25 GMT 7
Yeah exactly what I was planning with the b20 or b18, having the higher revving head from my b16, but might be less than 200whp but with headworks it would be above the said budget. Hmmm... I guess I'll have to save more for reliability and power  I think Im getting wary of surplus parts aswell. |
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Post by jeff on Oct 19, 2005 22:10:19 GMT 7
i see nothing wrong with your 2 options ton, they'll both increase your cars hp making it more fun to drive  If you're gonna ask me shempre suggest ko mag turbo ka hehe ;D With 100k you can have a "home-made" setup na maayos talaga. I have a friend siya lang nag setup ng kit niya tapos naka Uber siya and pinatune niya sa Speedwerks, Im sure may mga 220-240whp yun civic niya stock internals. You're right sometimes hindi reliable yun surplus parts, i guess depends nalang where you buy and if marunong ka talaga pumili kasi minsan swertihan lang talaga. My friend and cousin they know how to pick good surplus parts and gamit nila yun sa car nila now so far ok pa naman lahat. If you're gonna do your own turbo kit, you can buy some brand new parts and some surplus parts. You can buy a brand new turbine para sure pero thats gonna cost mga a thousand USD na ata hehe. There are a lot of shops that can make really nice SS pipings, quality naman yun work nila. Basta turbo, for me very important aside from parts (surplus or brand new) is tuning. My friend uses Uber no complains naman You might want to change your clutch and brakes too |
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Post by jango on Oct 20, 2005 8:40:19 GMT 7
yup! its all about how you're gonna setup the turbo. in the US, b16a civics with big turbos and forged pistons and rods reach 300whp with 10psi of boost. thats very impressive with a tiny 1.6 engine.
are you planning to track your car? well i think its still better to bring an NA car to the track since you'll be able to do more high revving runs than a turbocharged car. but then again, more power = more fun. if everyday driving, then mas fun siguro ang turbo.
basta plan your setup carefully before doing anything.
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Post by FlyLO on Oct 22, 2005 2:10:21 GMT 7
Thanks for the replys and inputs guys  Jeff thanks din for clearing it up kanina I will definitely keep it in mind. |
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Post by jeff on Oct 22, 2005 10:13:30 GMT 7
sure ton no problem |
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Post by mbizzy on Oct 31, 2005 11:48:24 GMT 7
Di ko napansin tong thread na to ah...
neweiz, personally i'd go for the n/a route hehehe... less troubles and more reliability eh.... hehehe...
syempre based on your engine, since it is already a high compression engine, AFAIK mas malaki gains mo in going n/a....
sus wala akong alam pagdating dito.... la ako karapatan magsalita hehehe
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Post by FlyLO on Nov 1, 2005 2:07:09 GMT 7
Hahaha ulol! sino kaya nag psshh psshh na hahaha |
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Post by borly on Nov 2, 2005 5:46:37 GMT 7
ton go for the bigger aspirated nalang... mas challenging ang cool for me pag civic tas n/a tas sobrang bilis |
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Post by kev on Nov 2, 2005 6:30:45 GMT 7
Di ko napansin tong thread na to ah... neweiz, personally i'd go for the n/a route hehehe... less troubles and more reliability eh.... hehehe... syempre based on your engine, since it is already a high compression engine, AFAIK mas malaki gains mo in going n/a.... sus wala akong alam pagdating dito.... la ako karapatan magsalita hehehe personally id go for the n/a route ah? hahahaha ;D |
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Post by MBizzy offline on Nov 2, 2005 18:29:10 GMT 7
Di ko napansin tong thread na to ah... neweiz, personally i'd go for the n/a route hehehe... less troubles and more reliability eh.... hehehe... syempre based on your engine, since it is already a high compression engine, AFAIK mas malaki gains mo in going n/a.... sus wala akong alam pagdating dito.... la ako karapatan magsalita hehehe personally id go for the n/a route ah? hahahaha ;D ehhhh.... habol ko lang naman psssht psssht hehehehe.... ... and in the first place, low compression engine ko compared sa b16 ni ton noh!!! hehehehe talked to some people about your dilemma, sabi nila hirap daw paabutin ng 200 ang sir sa all motor.. turbo naman madali lang (duh)... pero parehong sobrang hirap hehehe.. mahirap daw gawing everyday driveable ang car kapag n/a na mga 200... yun lang sabi sa akin... hehehe |
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Post by FlyLO on Nov 6, 2005 21:19:07 GMT 7
haha onga daw eh malaking dilemma nga hehehe malaki rin kagat sa pocket hahaha Well untill i get to choose im still upgrading brakes hehehe |
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Post by kev on Nov 7, 2005 6:11:38 GMT 7
why dont u get surplus na b18c5 na engine nalang? yan yung mga engine from the integra type r e..haha or if u have a lot more money, hanap ka k20a..at least kapag k20a ka, pretty much 200whp na yun agad, stock.
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